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“Now that anyone can get a copy of Windows Vista Beta 2, one can see first hand just how much Microsoft admires OS X. I know when I first saw it in all its glory at CES this year, I kept mummering to myself, ‘That’s from OS X…that’s from OS X…that’s from OS X,’ until the Microsoft project manager that was giving the demo told the crowd what hardware demand was needed. Ya, that was all Microsoft,” SvenOnTech writes.
“If you haven’t seen the next version of Microsoft Windows, then Lifehacker [Windows Vista Beta: A lot like Mac OS X] has some side-by-side (well, top-by-bottom) comparisons to show you… As Vista drags on toward its ultimate release date, OS X will continue to grow in market share,” SvenOnTech writes. “With the growing number of daily insecurities of Windows (which has plagued Vista betas as well), users will soon grow tired of Microsoft and move on. The extra hardware need may be that final straw, to use a cliche.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Microsoft. Making bad upside down and backwards copies of Apple’s Mac OS for over two decades. And now Gawd-awful Mac keyboards, too! It’s no wonder that Microsofties have no pride. What a sad, bloated company from which to collect a check for sitting in a cubicle playing Solitaire when you’re really supposed to be cooking spaghetti, er… coding Windows Vista.
Hopefully, the “Get a Mac” ads get them into the Apple Stores to see Tiger in action or this will happen: Analyst: Windows Vista may still impress many consumers because they have not seen Apple’s Mac OS X – January 05, 2006
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OMG! They were blatant this time.
If memory serves….Law suits for stealing look and feel of software are not that successful. I think Lotus 1-2-3 vs. Quatro comes to mind. Well I for one know who makes the OS that looks out for my data, my personal information security, and provides reliable service in the long term. MS can never confuse me when it comes to those issues.
Thats why I don’t buy any Microsoft crap….it’s just a bad photocopy job
Yes … much of Vista’s “new features” are rip-offs of current OS X features.
Care to talk about who had Fast User Switching first?
How about document sharing?
Spend less time noticing who is ripping off which features and take a moment to consider who is “Making bad upside down and backwards copies”. Doing it right is more important than doing it first. At least when Apple rips off Microsoft, they generally do a better job of implementing whatever it is they are copying.
They don’t play solitaire! They’re off playing XBOX 360!
Ooooooh! Their folders are sideways, I get it.
They rip off this, we rip off that. There are only so many ways of doing things. That’s why copyrights and patents on software are just ludicrous.
You find your code in a Microsoft app any you really have been ripped off. Microsoft hasn’t been caught doing that since they started trying to make XP secure. I guess they’ve been too busy.
Apple doens’t do their development in a vacuum, so of course MS has had some influence on some of their ideas but the sharing between the two companies is far from fair.
I’m really tired of poeple using fast user switching as evidence of MS innovating ahead of apple. FUS is not a new or novel idea. After using a multi user computer for 5 minutes it becomes an obvious feature, and has been part of mainframe/super computer operating systems for years. MS didn’t invent the idea but they got to it faster than Apple. Good for them. From 11/2001 till 10/2003 MS was ahead on that game, but that advantage is now gone and it was never evidence of vision or creativity. TRy actually using FUS on a computer with only 512 MB RAM and tell me whose FUS actually works best.
The face can’t change the hard fact:
Mac OS X uses a UNIX kernel, much more stable and secure, making it almost (I’m saying ALMOST) free of viruses and malware.
Windows Vista STILL uses the old NT kernel, being an open door to viruses and malware, etc., not to mention security exploits, crashing, and all the inherited annoyance from NT/2000/XP. It still uses the old installation process (compared to the much cleaner .app process, inherited to NeXT), and it is, in the end, XP with a different face.
So, to make Vista “better” will require much more than a facelift. They can copy and copy the GUI, but the bottom line is, which kernel is better? UNIX has a history of stability. NT, well, you read the news.
Fast User Switch? Microsoft “innovation” ??
OK, OK, switching users has been (and still is) a standard in UNIX since I remember it. You want to change users? You can use su, and that will change faster than anything.
Of course, that was part of NeXTstep, and therefore, inherited by Mac OS X. All what the Apple guys did was to make a very nice GUI mask to SU into another account. It was just the natural evolution of NeXTstep.
The funny thing is that no Windows users will know that Vista is a ripoff of Mac OS X because Apple doesn’t advertise what Mac OS X has to offer.
None of the Ads show us Mac OS X in action, just two bozos talking.
Microsoft’s whole “InfoCard” concept seems very similar to Apple’s Keychain concept that has been around for-pretty-much ever.
between ripping of an unpatented feature like FUS, and ripping off the LOOK of things.
you don’t HAVE to rip off the LOOK of something in order to get the function. but MS does anyway.
for MS show Windows in action either, not in the kind of detail you’re talking about where people would learn who ripped off what feature.
And there’s a reason ads don’t get into technical details like that. Nobody would pause on their way to the crapper for something boring like that.
It’s not boring if you use it, but it’s boring on TV. Talk ABOUT what you can do, but don’t SHOW it! Not in 30 seconds on a low-res TV, please.
and the hardware requirement for tiger? well i have it running on a 5-year old imac with half a gig of ram and it works just fine…
One thing MS can’t copy is OS X’s guts.
Security, stability, and advanced under-the-hood features have to be built in the hard way. You can’t rip those off with a paint program.
And I won’t mention Apple’s legendary fit-and-finish, which can only be done when you control both the OS & the hardware it runs on.
WinBoys, you’re welcome to edit your icons between Windows Defender interruptions & mysterious driver issues. The truth is glaring.
“If memory serves….Law suits for stealing look and feel of software are not that successful.”
Yeah, I seem to remember one between Apple years ago and . . . . .s o m e b o d y.
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Favorate quotes from comments on the Lifehacker article:
“It’s like that kid in school who everyone thought could draw but come to find out he was only tracing out of Highlights for Children and adding funny captions”
“Like a donkey braying in response to an opera singer”
Priceless!
The New MeeCrow$oft slogans.
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MeeCrow$oft, innovation by copied.
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MeeCrow$oft, inspired by Apple
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MeeCrow$oft, monopoly by copying & bullying
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MeeCrow$oft, it is NO SHAME to imitate.
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MeeCrow$oft, dare to follow.
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MeeCrow$oft, dare to be second.
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He wrote “With the growing number of daily insecurities of Windows (which has plagued Vista betas as well)……”
Does anybody know exactly what these insecurities are that have plagued Vista ?
I thought that security was supposed to be the big ( only ) selling point with Vista.
I have a feeling (hope, really) that Leopard may be advertised once Vista comes about. Hopefully, some really cool whiz-bang stuff that translates well to tv.
Like, showing how Windows can be kept safe, by eliminating it– running Windows applications without Windows. All the convenience, less the crap.
Oh, dare to dream.
“With the growing number of daily insecurities of Windows (which has plagued Vista betas as well), users will soon grow tired of Microsoft and move on.”
This statement makes it sound like any month now we’re finally going to START seeing the market share shift – even if its slowly. But I just don’t see it.
There’s a frequent poster that likes to call him/her self “Realitycheck” or some such thing. Well here’s a reality check. Inspite of everything OS X is still only about 5% of market share – blah blah blah. If things are going as well as I want to think they are for Mac, it seems that after a year of exponentially more publicity, a butt-load of new and awesome products, a Wall Street presence unparalled in Apple’s history, and considering MS’s latest behemoth, Mac should be tipping the scales toward a healthy 8-10% share… What’s up?
Really, I just don’t get it. We’re still posting a relative 5% market share? Isn’t the the consumer pc market bigger than the enterprise share? And if so, isn’t the Mac growing a lot faster in the consumer market than the enterprise?
Seems to me if things we’re going even half as well as this article makes it sound, Macs should already be posting verifiable point increases in market share. MDN’s take over the last vew months has been, “Assimalate and conquer”, but I honestly just don’t see it. Anybody know what’s really going on?
AlanAudio: “Does anybody know exactly what these insecurities are that have plagued Vista ?”
Try a Google search for “Vista virus.”
Lots of questions, few answers.
I find even more funny that noone has really noticed that on the developer versions of Tiger the widgets were actually in the directory /Library/Gadgets and ~/Library/Gadgets . And for an even funny look at it, previous versions of widgets had the extention name .gadget . M$ has blatantly stolen from apple and thier Developer releases of 10.4 by name. As such they have violated Apple’s developer license.
Been using both platforms since the the early 90’s. It comes down to which one you’re comfortable with. My first was a PC that required booting into DOS to use it. Windows has progressed, but the Mac and Next have been and are the R&D dept. of computers. I make money off of using both, but only enjoy the experience on my Mac. The Apple stores allow people to play with the OS, something Ads doesn’t do. No matter what, Apple needs a face lift, OS X is five years old and still looks like it did three versions ago. M$ now looks better. Apple, I hope you’ve upped the Wow factor with the next update.
“Anybody know what’s really going on?”
Billions of dollars on the line?
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt is still a viable weapon?
Most people are too lazy to care? (my friends included)
I’m not sure there is a huge problem as long as Apple makes a profit, innovates, and keeps the evilness/arrogance under control.
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